In a recent conversation on The New Mainstream Podcast, ThinkNow Co-Founder Mario Carrasco sat down with Matt Lawler, VP of Data & Insights, Global Partnerships at AEG, to talk about fandom, live entertainment, data and the changing ways brands understand audiences.
One idea stood out:
Knowing someone’s demographic profile doesn’t necessarily tell you what will move them.
Lawler argues that brands can become so focused on “diversity” that they miss what actually connects people.
Race, ethnicity, gender and age are important signals. But consumers are also shaped by beliefs, behaviors, interests, communities and cultural affinities.
His example is simple: Kobe Bryant.
Put Kobe in front of Lakers fans and people from completely different backgrounds can immediately share a connection. The cultural symbol becomes a unifying force that cuts across other differences.
That matters for marketers because the most relevant audience may not always be defined by a traditional demographic category. It might be defined by what people share.
Technology is making that distinction even more important.
Lawler points to the rise of personalization and increasingly precise targeting. Brands can understand interests, behaviors and mindsets that reveal much more about what might drive someone toward a purchase.
The question becomes:
What characteristics actually predict the behavior we care about?
That could mean identifying people around an artist, a sports team, a lifestyle, a hobby or a particular mindset rather than relying primarily on broad demographic groups.
Smaller cultural communities can also become disproportionately influential. Lawler points to sneakerheads as an example: once viewed as a niche subculture, they now influence some of the world's biggest footwear brands.
Today’s niche audience can become tomorrow’s mainstream consumer.
For brands, deeper audience intelligence starts by understanding the beliefs and behaviors behind an identity.
Lawler's advice is especially relevant for brands trying to enter cultural spaces: understand what is already happening, listen to the community and identify where the brand can genuinely add value.
Because ultimately:
Demographics can help tell you who your audience is. Culture and behavior can help explain why they act.
And understanding that difference may be one of the biggest opportunities for marketers trying to reach the audiences shaping what's next.